Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 16:00): Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 16:00):lldb requires python36.dll on windows. python 3.6 is only available as source & I can't be bothered building it. if anyone has a trusted python36.dll it should be up somewhere to smooth the flow around wasmtime toolchain. llvm guys should ship it, but they don't.
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 16:08):I've just grabbed a random download off the interweb for now, which isn't ideal, but it'll have to do. would prefer to use/ship something a little more trusted.
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 16:08):yuri, why go backwards. its one dll to fix this problem.
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 16:09):I have it running, but with a dodgy dll I downloaded. might be fine, might not :)
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 16:09):& therein lies a security issue so this gap should be patched properly.
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 16:13):our entire distribution needs building from scratch on a clean system at some point. right now, its just make it work mode. you have been warned. virus check our stuff if you run it. think I'm clean, but who knows what's lurking.
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 16:27):"lldb was not built with gui support" using standard download from : https://releases.llvm.org/download.html#10.0.0
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 16:27):we all love having to build each others stuff every 5 minutes :)
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 16:28):so ... looks like a hop straight to one of the visual studio code thingies as not in the mood for building llvm from scratch either.
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 16:30):if anyone knows which is the best wasmtime compatible visual studio code addon, recommendations welcome.
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 16:32):post above says CodeLLDB just works, so lets try that.
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 16:39):new to vs code, so will take me a while to get head around it.
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 16:40):if any llvm devs around please build lldb with gui and ship whatever python dll you need with your windows binaries, thanks.
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 17:19):no joy yet. got lldb to execute our app from visual studio code but it won't set breakpoints. seems to want to debug our binary rather than the wasm code.
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 17:20):configuring lldb in vscode as follows : https://pastebin.com/xZJH5x6h
unsure how to tell it please debug wasm rather than app binaries.
Yury Delendik (Jun 08 2020 at 17:24):if you have app callbacks that called from wasm, can you set breakpoints there?
Yury Delendik (Jun 08 2020 at 17:27):so major question here is to check if GDB JIT interface is working on Windows LLDB. if you can break at any code that was called from wasm and you can inspect call stack, it is a good news
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 17:29):I could in our debug build but that's not what I want to do. I want our app in release mode with wasm stuff in debug.
Yury Delendik (Jun 08 2020 at 17:31):sure. can you still confirm the above though?
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 17:31):yup
Yury Delendik (Jun 08 2020 at 17:35):if you break in the running code (+wasm) and type image list in the debugger terminal, you shall see a module with "JIT" in its name
Yury Delendik (Jun 08 2020 at 17:37):if it is there then you are almost done -- you just need to enable breakpoints on all files in vscode
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 17:40):noob at lldb. gui doesn't want to let me break. seems like I have an lldb console.
what's the command to break ?
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 17:40):sorry, I usually just visual studio & go :)
Yury Delendik (Jun 08 2020 at 17:40):b file.c:34 or b foo_function
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 17:41):not set a breakpoint, just halt wherever it is so we can do that 'image list'
Yury Delendik (Jun 08 2020 at 17:41):hmmm, is there pause button?
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 17:42):yeah, its ignored but I have a console
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 17:42):can't we do it from there ?
Yury Delendik (Jun 08 2020 at 17:42):ctrl-c normally do the job in cli
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 17:44):maybe I get you a linux build & we do this over there first.
Yury Delendik (Jun 08 2020 at 17:45):it will save some time, yes
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 17:46):leave this with me for a while. I can't drive vscode properly yet. need to mess with it a bit more. linux version in due course if we need that. it doesn't have everything yet but should have enough to fire up & debug our wasm examples.
Yury Delendik (Jun 08 2020 at 17:47):also you may try smaller example such as https://github.com/bytecodealliance/wasmtime/blob/master/examples/fib-debug/main.c
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 17:47):can also ship an infinity version with debug mode. this is mostly likely an I can't drive lldb/vscode issue. so maybe I need to hop out of the way.
Yury Delendik (Jun 08 2020 at 17:48):there are also https://github.com/bytecodealliance/wasmtime/tree/master/tests/all/debug/testsuite
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 17:48):yeah, think you're right. lets get a simple example running under the debugger first.
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 17:56):k, back up a step. lets drop vscode & work from lldb command line
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 18:21):sorry for the delay, here's "image list" output
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 18:25):sorry, that wasn't during a run. this one is though. ctrl-c from cmd line as advised.
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 18:27):not seeing anything with jit. maybe I messed up adding your debug support. will go back over that.
Yury Delendik (Jun 08 2020 at 18:27):yeah, that's missing "JIT" module, means debugger did not get any info about JIT code
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 18:28):good news is vstudio code was doing as it should. can't break on anything it doesn't understand.
Yury Delendik (Jun 08 2020 at 18:28):it can be that windows support for lldb is not on the par with other OS
Yury Delendik (Jun 08 2020 at 18:29):vscode can be configured to set breakpoints on everything
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 18:29):or it could be I've goofed. others have got wasmtime debugging on windows.
Yury Delendik (Jun 08 2020 at 18:30):can you try simple code on linux?
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 18:30):yeah but I haven't given up here yet.
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 18:31):leave it with me. you've told me what to look for when its working. will let you know when I get there.
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 18:32):& I will try linux if no joy windows
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 18:42):got this to enable debug stuff, with an audio cue so I know I hit it.
https://pastebin.com/rqNqkTAP
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 18:42):did I miss something. its just that & compile with -g
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 18:42):missing a linker flag ?
Yury Delendik (Jun 08 2020 at 18:43):checked wasm with llvm-dwarfdump?
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 18:45):not yet, that's next I guess.
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 18:46):build script as follows : https://pastebin.com/rfUWxrd8
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 18:50):http://advance-software.com/misc/app.wasm
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 18:50):don't seem to have llvm-dwarfdump windows. might have to boot linux after all :)
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 18:52):nope. don't have it. llvm 10 standard binary distribution, windows is rubbish :)
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 19:29):got llvm-dwarfdump linux, so ran that. don't know what I'm doing with it yet. didn't seem to spot anything interesting so perhaps entry level fail & no debug info in the wasm. just compiled with -g as requested. maybe that's not enough.
Yury Delendik (Jun 08 2020 at 19:35):Line 27 , no “-g”
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 19:38):there is, it expands from COMPILE_OPTIONS, which gets it from EXTRA_COMPILE_OPTIONS
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 19:38):expands as follows :
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 19:39):on line 36, we have the actual compilation, which includes -g flag
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 19:41):as I have no clue how to use llvm-dwarfdump can I get a minimal command line or output to look for please
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 19:41):I can experiment with other flags into the compiler to hopefully generate some debug.
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 19:42):this is almost comp sci 101 fail territory :)
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 19:47):this bit doesn't require running any of our binaries, just running llvm 10.0 distribution out of the box, with make script above instead of the release script shipped in our sdk above.
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 19:48):realise its my problem, just saying its safe for others to help identify why we're compiling without debug info if you wanted to.
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 19:49):am I missing an obvious link flag I need ?
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 19:52):maybe clang is weird & the position of the flag on the command line matters ?
Yury Delendik (Jun 08 2020 at 19:56):llvm-dwarfdump just prints entire dwarf sections, so if nothing then it’s empty
Yury Delendik (Jun 08 2020 at 19:57):I place -g before files but it shall not matter
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 19:57):k, so I got nothing. so we're at bottom of the class here. how embarassing :)
Yury Delendik (Jun 08 2020 at 19:57):wasm-ld just combines these sections
Yury Delendik (Jun 08 2020 at 19:59):Do llvmdwarfdump for obj file
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 20:02):llvm-dwarfdump app.o
app.o: Invalid data was encountered while parsing the file
Yury Delendik (Jun 08 2020 at 20:02):Is dwarfdump new e.g. from wadi-sdk
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 20:03):nope. I have no idea what version., should update it.
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 20:03):however, whichever version I have says this :
llvm-dwarfdump app.wasm
app.wasm: No available targets are compatible with this triple.
app.wasm: file format WASM
.debug_info contents:
Yury Delendik (Jun 08 2020 at 20:04):Right. Use one from wadi-sdk
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 20:04):link to wadi-sdk please. jfgi but not obvious
Yury Delendik (Jun 08 2020 at 20:04):The one you have probably from 10 years ago :p
Yury Delendik (Jun 08 2020 at 20:05):Wasi-sdk it is
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 20:05):llvm-dwarfdump --version
LLVM (http://llvm.org/):
LLVM version 6.0.0
Optimized build.
Default target: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
Host CPU: skylake
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 20:06):so yeah, my linux box needs an update
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 20:06):ah, it is wasi sdk & so a typo
Yury Delendik (Jun 08 2020 at 20:09):Right. You have wasm-ld so you may have dwarfdump near it
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 20:12):nope. gonna do that linux. upgrading my llvm to 10.0 ubuntu
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 20:14):yup, 10 linux has it, 10 windoze doesn't :)
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 20:15):pre-built binary distributions
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 20:16):then as no installer ubuntu, looks like I just drop the directories into the file system
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 20:19):LLVM (http://llvm.org/):
LLVM version 10.0.0
Optimized build.
Default target: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
Host CPU: skylake
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 20:20):from : llvm-dwarfdump --version
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 20:20):so think that's how you install it :)
Steve Williams (Jun 08 2020 at 20:21):tired. simple obvious things aren't working so gonna stop there for today & get something simple compiling with debug info in the morning.
cheers all.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 07:27):k, progress. ported my make script to bash, compiled our thing ubuntu, llvm 10. ran llvm-dwarfdump app.wasm got a ton out output, unlike yesterday :)
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 07:29):apparent bug llvm 10 wasm win64 : debug info not generated when requested, though need to verify.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 09:43):image list from llvm on windows not showing anything jit related, unless I'm blind. this is with the wasm with debug in it compiled on linux.
still running on windows, next step is perhaps run linux. which wouldn't hurt anyway.
https://pastebin.com/fL3TpAqn
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 09:44):however confidence low that lldb 10 precompiled binary version on windows is solid anyway.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 09:45):from wasm. for standard compilation, it gets exercised plenty.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 09:47):so, back to basics until standard stuff is working as expected. maybe a wasmtime.exe example next, rather than our stuff.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 10:59):looking at debug example posted above. we have differences. its not just this :
https://github.com/bytecodealliance/wasmtime/blob/master/examples/fib-debug/main.c#L18
most of the entrypoints in that example are wasmtime methods, whereas I assumed wasm_c_api would be sufficient.
seems I assumed wrong :)
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 11:02):as of 0.16 you have a regression, yury
./main.c:74:68: error: too many arguments to function call, expected 5, have 6
error = wasmtime_instance_new(store, module, NULL, 0, &instance, &trap);
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 11:04):store parameter needs removing from that call.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 12:25):no cargo.toml so instructions in main.rs cannot be completed.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 12:25):for fib-debug
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 12:26):if I could have that missing file, please, I should be able to run your example as-is to see if I can reproduce expected behaviour :)
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 12:31):sorry misunderstood - main.rs is equivalent of main.c which I don't need. the wasm is in wasm :) with its toml :)
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 12:38):cargo build -p example-fib-debug-wasm --target wasm32-unknown-unknown
should be in make.sh in the wasm directory, not referenced in main.rs which I'm not using :)
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 12:40):a make script so all of that just works would be nice :)
note how my stuff has that :P
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 12:41):welcome back... so you are on linux today?
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 12:42):for right now, yup.
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 12:42):"too many arguments to function call" means you are trying to use old version of wasmtime with new example
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 12:42):API changed after my PR
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 12:43):I'm using latest shipped version :) 0.16
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 12:43):0.17 is source only.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 12:43):but if its the runtime that's too old, can compile 0.17 myself.
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 12:44):I thought 0.17 is released
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 12:45):it is, but only as source & I was keeping workload to the minimum.
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 12:45):yep, https://crates.io/crates/wasmtime
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 12:45):but if that's a requirement, then it is :)
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 12:45):got fib_debug running using main.c 0.16
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 12:46):next job, drop in 0.17
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 12:46):no debugging yet, just got my head around your build process.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 12:52):here's that start of a make script - compiles main.c & installs wasmtime runtime. I'm a bit crap on linux, so could possibly be done better, but it works.
https://pastebin.com/hKznEJRC
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 13:01):that's right, I gave up on building 0.17 when I hit this :)
cargo build -p wasmtime-c-api --release
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 13:01):error: failed to parse manifest at /home/x/dev/wasm/wasmtime-0.17.0/Cargo.toml
Caused by:
feature profile-overrides is required
this Cargo does not support nightly features, but if you
switch to nightly channel you can add
cargo-features = ["profile-overrides"] to enable this feature
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 13:02):is it really necessary to use absolutely bleeding edge functionality on everything ?
:)
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 13:03):$ rustc --version
rustc 1.43.1 (8d69840ab 2020-05-04)
rustc 1.36.0 (a53f9df32 2019-07-03)
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 13:03):k, so how do I update that plz :)
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 13:04):rustup update?
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 13:04):apparently, I avoid the horrid thing as much as possible as it lacks elegant c/c++ syntax :P
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 13:04):did you install via rustup ?
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 13:05):at some stage I suppose.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 13:05):running an update
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 13:06):its like the pascal people showed up & told us how its gonna be & the c++ guys when, ummm ... no ... but I digress :)
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 13:06):1.44
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 13:06):alright, bleeding edge
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 13:07):x@dev:~/dev/wasm/wasmtime-0.17.0$ cargo build -p wasmtime-c-api --release
error: failed to read /home/x/dev/wasm/wasmtime-0.17.0/crates/wasi-common/WASI/tools/witx/Cargo.toml
Caused by:
No such file or directory (os error 2)
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 13:07):this is why we have binary distributions of things - so everyone doesn't have to go through dependency nightmares :)
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 13:08):how do I install that wasi crate thingy please.
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 13:08):let's cleanup: cargo clean and git submodule update --init ?
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 13:08):its unhappy doing a cargo clean, same error.
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 13:09):what about submodules?
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 13:09):I don't need to do this. can you just build 0.17 & post it, no is cool if you can't be bothered
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 13:10):not a git repository. I downloaded 0.17 from releases, not from git.
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 13:10):probably glitch in matrix, did you report it?
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 13:10):how do I pull that branch from git please
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 13:10):yeah, but then these guys with dark glasses showed up & I ended up here :)
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 13:11):git fetch upstream && git checkout upstream/master normally works for me
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 13:11):guess I just pull wasmtime git trunk on linux, as I did on windows. cross fingers & hope its solid.
which is what you just said.
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 13:13):if I'm angry with what I see in git status, I just nuking that with git checkout -f --recurse-submodules
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 13:15):pulled fresh trunk
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 13:16):x@dev:~/dev/wasm/wasmtime$ cargo build -p wasmtime-c-api --release
error: failed to read /home/x/dev/wasm/wasmtime/crates/wasi-common/WASI/tools/witx/Cargo.toml
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 13:16):can we have a binary build of 0.17 please.
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 13:18):https://github.com/bytecodealliance/wasmtime/releases/tag/dev ?
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 13:18):ah, that's new :)
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 13:19):when you go this way, it just shows source : https://github.com/bytecodealliance/wasmtime/releases
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 13:19):thanks.
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 13:19):There was a build problem on CI, so exact 0.17 might be missing -- the issue needs to be opened
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 13:20):well, we can hop past this. if there's a binary 0.17 which you've linked, thanks. I can just use this & the matrix can resolve itself :)
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 13:20):the Assets is what you are looking for
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 13:21):? I'm just wanting to link 0.17 to main.c from fibdebug so I have the same API you have in your example & as close to edge as possible without losing my mind :)
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 13:22):@Dan Gohman can we release 0.18 sinse 0.17 did not publish any assets?
Dan Gohman (Jun 09 2020 at 13:22):Sure
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 13:23):I wonder if 0.17.1 is a thing for us
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 13:23):whatever works :)
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 13:31):k, 0.17 build, runs ubuntu. no debugging yet but works
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 13:50):building lldb 10 from source as seems to be a requirement :)
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 14:20):lldb version 10 installed, ubuntu
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 14:23):alright, alright, alright... let me know if I shall pull mine from the closet
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 14:24):think that's a private matter :)
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 14:24):ran fib debug thingy.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 14:24): Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 14:25):just let it run all the way through. not sure if that's what you wanted.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 14:26):so, not seeing anything jit there. to be clear I ran that after a run of the app. didn't break inside it.
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 14:28):sure if store is cleaned up -- there is no JIT'ed code
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 14:28):place a breakpoint in your app just before/after the wasm function invocation.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 14:31):k, so that's expected. I have no clue how to use lldb from command line yet :) and of course compiled without gui :)
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 14:31):is there the equivalent of DebugBreak() on windows I can just compile in ?
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 14:31):https://www.nesono.com/sites/default/files/lldb%20cheat%20sheet.pdf ?
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Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 14:32):thanks
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 14:32):normally you type b main.c:234 to set a breakpoint at specific line, r to run/restart, c to continue, q to quit
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 14:35):you don't need to know much to drive debugging session, but it will be useful to see what you did hen you post terminal in the pastebin
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 14:35):it is impossible to paste your mouse clicks
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 14:36):k, so to keep this simple, how do I single source line step please
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 14:37):s or n
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 14:37):tried that - invalid process
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 14:37):so I have to start it somehow first ?
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 14:37):r?
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 14:38):that runs the whole thing
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 14:38):so I have to put a breakpoint. I can't just step in a line at a time.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 14:38):so breakpoint at main
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 14:39):god I hate this - we've moved on. its like hanging out with the vi is great crowd :)
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 14:39):right, it will break on set breakpoint though, see e.g. tests https://github.com/bytecodealliance/wasmtime/blob/master/tests/all/debug/lldb.rs#L71-L74
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 14:40):I don't have a set breakpoint. I just want to do like visual studio. f10, first line, next line, next line.
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 14:40):but you do set a breakpoint at first line, no?
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 14:41):in visual studio, no. turns out you can step and it figures out you wanted to start at the first line of the program :)
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 14:41):but that's not important. this toolchain works how it does.
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 14:41):yeah, usually hello world programs are debugged this way
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 14:42):this pretty much is hello world. its only about 50 lines
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 14:42):breakpoint set --name main
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 14:43):apparently
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 14:43):or b main
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 14:43):which should be implict if you step from an unstarted program, but anyhow :)
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 14:44):omg its working :)
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 14:45):s steps in, not wanting to dive deep n is next high level instruction ?
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 14:47):yeah, but I'm interested in image list
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 14:47):at
wasm_extern_vec_delete(&exports);
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 14:47):so image list here
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 14:47):you're not gonna like this :)
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 14:48): Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 14:48):I spy [ 11] 54F9EC54 0x00007ffff7fc7000 JIT(0x737b80) (0x0000000000737b80)
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 14:49):ah, so it is :)
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 14:49):so, we've got the basics working. next step hop back to windows & see if I can get it doing the same thing.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 14:49):thanks for your assistance & patience :)
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 14:50):hold on, set breakpoint in wasm code
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 14:50):how plz
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 14:50):use source file name and line number
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 14:51):just like you use mouse, but using the keyboard :P
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 14:52):yeah, mouse was invented so you didn't have to search through cheat sheets :)
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 14:52):this is like arguing with blender artists who love their key combos when I prefer 3dsmax gui but anyways :)
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 14:53):repeatable is a key here, mouse is an art
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 14:54):mouse triggers events that can be captured & logged, but we digress. you want to stay with 60s tech, we'll stay with 60s tech.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 14:56):(lldb) b fib.rs:4
Breakpoint 1: no locations (pending).
WARNING: Unable to resolve breakpoint to any actual locations.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 14:56):that's from a fresh start. guessing that's too early. hasn't loaded yet so knows nothing about it.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 14:57):b main
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 14:57):or just b fib
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 14:59):when the c code is reading imports/exports you should have enough info for wasm breakpoints ?
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 14:59):apparently so
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 14:59):yeah, if wasm code has valid DWARF info
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 15:00):seems happy.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 15:00):looking for continue command
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 15:00):c?
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 15:01): Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 15:01):seems happy :)
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 15:01):is it good?
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 15:01):nah
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 15:02):try bt
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 15:02):should say var, not let mut
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 15:02):it works, the syntax is horrid :P
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 15:02):you are using wrong examples, did you see https://github.com/bytecodealliance/wasmtime/blob/master/tests/all/debug/testsuite/reverse-str.c ?
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 15:03):to be clear. system is functioning as expected. thank you. I have a syntax quibble but that's an issue for another day.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 15:03):I used the fib example you linked above. think my whine about rust syntax has confused you.
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 15:03):install vscode on ubuntu and try to drive debugging via GUI
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 15:04):that sounds crazy
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 15:04):nope, vscode is using LLDB
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 15:04):yup, might even work :)
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 15:05):if so, screw up is bcoz I was using wasm-c-api entrypoints but you require wasmtime api calls ?
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 15:07):not sure
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 15:13):generating of DWARF is an overhead, the engine needs to do be configured to spend CPU/memory for debug info
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 15:14):c api "outsourced" this type of operation to implementers
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 15:14):vscode, linux refusing to start, but I had that working windows & not concerned linux right now other than diagnostics, which we've just completed.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 15:16):so, let me head back to windows & repeat the above somehow. might have to compile llvm trunk or 11 candidate as 10 wasn't behaving.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 15:16):cheers. leave that with me for now. I can see we can debug lldb, regardless of what vscode's doing.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 16:25):building llvm trunk, windows, gonna be a while.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 17:45):c api "outsourced" this type of operation to implementers
which is why I don't understand why you have so many wasmtime calls in fib-debug. surely just the first call to set debugging info as that's not present in wasm-c-api is enough. then standard api.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 18:06):& even that, surely an environment variable would be better, then you can override & enable debug from any wasmtime runtime without anyone having to modify anything.
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 18:08):right, but the main question is does it work on windows?
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 18:09):the environment feature is good, but irrelevant
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 18:09):fighting with llvm build system. their latest windows snapshot is 20th feb. 10 released in march.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 18:09):its not irrelevent, its a refinement once we're working.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 18:10):this is what I hate about open source. everyone's like "but you can build it yourself". I. don't. want. to.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 18:10):I'd like a beer please. sure sir, there's a field, go plant yourself some hops ...
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 18:10)::)
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 18:11):which version of LLDB is included in vscode plugins?
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 18:11):right now it doesn't matter bcoz clang doesn't generate debug info and I can't ship a toolchain that requires our users to switch to linux to compile their scripts.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 18:12):just built llvm windows using standard cmake environment, which built everything except what I want, so going through more slowly, second pass to see if I can get thing to do what I want.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 18:17):this "windows snapshot build" is older than the current release : https://llvm.org/builds
realise it's not your project, just sayin' :)
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 18:43):going with this as a llvm configure script :
cmake ../llvm -G Ninja -DLLVM_ENABLE_PROJECTS="clang;lldb;lld" -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE="Release" -DLLVM_TARGETS_TO_BUILD="WebAssembly" -DLLVM_BUILD_EXAMPLES=0 -DLLVM_INCLUDE_EXAMPLES=0 -DLLVM_INCLUDE_TESTS=0 -DLLVM_INCLUDE_BENCHMARKS=0
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 18:44):nope, not that :)
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 18:45):/me would just use https://github.com/WebAssembly/wasi-sdk/ as a base
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 18:46):have you tested windows, coz my understanding was you're linux only.
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 18:46):https://github.com/WebAssembly/wasi-sdk/blob/master/Makefile#L7
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 18:46):hence going trunk to see if whatever's wrong has been fixed.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 18:47):have you used your sdk tools to compile with debug on windows & confirmed you get debug info with dwarf tool thingy who's name I can't remember ?
:)
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 18:48):llvm-dwarfdump
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 18:48):llvm-dwarfdump
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 18:50):we need to be able to compile wasm with debug on windows or there's no point going further with any of this as our only viable dev platform right this minute is windows. our plan is complete there, then fill in the gaps linux & others.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 18:52):that build still going, thought it had failed, but just some warnings.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 18:55):again, that's a pull, fight dependency hell & hope rather than a install package. I'll give it a go. thanks.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 19:04):completing llvm build I have going first. may as well, its half way thru.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 19:29):wasi-sdk : what do I run windows, please. no make, that makefile isn't nmake compatible
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 19:30):got mozilla build tools which does have make, but it doesn't have cmake :)
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 19:31):mozmake?
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 19:32):dunno, I'll figure something out.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 19:32):however all of this is some way from it just works (tm)
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 19:33):such is free
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 19:42):k, got cmake in my mozilla tools cmd thingy
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 19:42):it can't find llvm stuff now.
so must be a step before make that i've skipped
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 19:45):backing up a step, why am I not just running https://github.com/WebAssembly/wasi-sdk/releases
wasi-sdk-11 mingw ?
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 19:45):I'll build if I have to, but surely that's what I want, your most recent built tools. if they work, we're good.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 19:46):I was using standard llvm-10 - haven't tried this yet, so maybe that's the hassle free fix.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 19:47):its only 6 days old so unless you've fixed something I need more recently than that, think that's where I should be.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 20:03):k, progress :) compiles windows with debug & do have llvm-dwarfdump there as its in the mingw distribution.
yay :)
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 20:04):solution was to use wasi-sdk tools rather than standard llvm-10 equivalent, as advised, thank you :)
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 20:10):no lldb in that package. I should use standard llvm 10 version ?
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 20:10):if its missing & you plan to add, please build it with curses so can use gui
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 20:15):using lldb 10 for now
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 20:15):ctrl-c to break
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 20:17):no JIT. as expected, as that's just the same as compiling wasm on linux then running it on windows as yesterday.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 20:17):so back up a step, run fib-debug windows, see if can repro behaviour on linux.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 20:26):test_app is fib_debug compiled with debug info, windows
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 20:26):so that lldb sucks
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 20:27):build trunk lldb ?
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 20:29):sanity check. standard lldb, standard simple c program. see what happens.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 20:32):ummm, losing it - was trying to debug fib debug linux on windows, hadn't actually built it. surprised it got that far. doh :)
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 21:14):k, built fib_debug using visual studio on windows as clang was giving me weird errors. as our stuff is vstudio, that's probably better as closer to the same thing.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 21:15):stepping thru using lldb
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 21:16): Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 21:17):that's using wasmtime from here : https://github.com/bytecodealliance/wasmtime/releases/tag/dev released today.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 21:18):can you guys please confirm your stuff works windows. doesn't seem to for me.
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 21:19):Could be that GDB JIT interface does not work on Windows. can you file an issue? maybe someone can weight in before I look at it?
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 21:20):long shot: can you try settings set plugin.jit-loader.gdb.enable on before doing r
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 21:21):sure. let me try that.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 21:21):can mozilla get yury a windows box please :)
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 21:21):... in the closet
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 21:22):I gotta be bi-os so have u :)
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 21:23):this times, tri-os is acceptable
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 21:25):yeah, got all that fun ahead. quad os if we're going android and mac stuff
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 21:25):and then we have ps-5 & xbox next fun & games. but lets keep it simple for now.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 21:27):not spotting any difference.
https://pastebin.com/mTxufwp9
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 21:29):where would you like me to raise a bug
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 21:30):should be easy enough for anyone else to reproduce. there's a possiblity I've got a weird setup.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 21:30):so you might like a confirmation.
Yury Delendik (Jun 09 2020 at 21:32):the wasmtime issue tracker is fine
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 21:33):here's my fib_debug directory with a visual studio solution in the make subdir & windows binary & the rest of it in bin
http://advance-software.com/misc/fib_debug.zip
can build yourself but that might be a helpful shortcut
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 21:41):I'm done unless you want me to add anything : https://github.com/bytecodealliance/wasmtime/issues/1850
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 21:46):right time for some zzzzz for me, have fun :)
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 21:50):whilst you're at it, if fib_debug can run with standard wasm calls instead of wasmtime calls, I think it should. should only use non standard calls when we have to.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 21:50):& reminder of the environment variable enabler to remove need for non-standard api altogether.
Steve Williams (Jun 09 2020 at 21:51):though whatever works :)
Steve Williams (Jun 10 2020 at 05:36):hope going well. let me row back on request to activate debug mode with an environment variable.
reason: that'd be global, but we'll want some scripting under debug control, some running normally. that just occurred.
Alexandru Ene (Jun 25 2020 at 12:38):BTW, i was doing some work on OSX and debugging didn't work. I managed to figure it out why so maybe this can help some people.
The root cause of it is that allowing the Injecting JIT debug information in LLDB has different defaults in windows/osx it would seem.
In the debug console if you run:
settings show plugin.jit-loader.gdb.enable it will say default, but it seems default means different things on different platforms :D. So the fix is quite wasy.
If you're using Code LLDB plugin for vscode, you need to set this option in your settings.json:
"lldb.launch.preRunCommands": [
"settings set plugin.jit-loader.gdb.enable on"
],
Then, after your module is registered, you can type in DEBUG CONSOLE image list and you should have a JIT(0xADDRESS)... in there as the last entry
Jakub Konka (Jun 25 2020 at 12:42):This is excellent, thanks @Alexandru Ene . I'm wondering, should we add this somewhere in our docs perhaps? It seems like a useful bit of info. @Till Schneidereit what do you think?
Alexandru Ene (Jun 25 2020 at 12:43):We could have a Debugging section and troubleshooting steps in case debugging doesn't work.
Alexandru Ene (Jun 25 2020 at 12:55):I can raise a PR with that as I did a bunch of troubleshooting recently around it.
Yury Delendik (Jun 25 2020 at 12:58):There are also known issues as https://github.com/bytecodealliance/wasmtime/issues/1896 or https://github.com/bytecodealliance/wasmtime/issues/1850 , I think I'll mark them with wasmtime:debugging
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